{"id":89506,"date":"2023-02-13T17:04:00","date_gmt":"2023-02-13T16:04:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/asile.ch\/?p=89506"},"modified":"2024-10-01T15:02:27","modified_gmt":"2024-10-01T13:02:27","slug":"statistiques-apprentissage-des-personnes-deboutees-les-autorites-naviguent-a-vue","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/asile.ch\/de\/2023\/02\/13\/statistiques-apprentissage-des-personnes-deboutees-les-autorites-naviguent-a-vue\/","title":{"rendered":"Statistiques | Apprentissage des personnes d\u00e9bout\u00e9es: les autorit\u00e9s naviguent \u00e0 vue"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><span class=\"accroche\"><strong>Les autorit\u00e9s f\u00e9d\u00e9rales n\u2019ont aucune id\u00e9e du nombre de requ\u00e9rant\u00b7es d\u2019asile qui suivaient une formation professionnelle au moment d\u2019une d\u00e9cision d\u2019asile n\u00e9gative, du nombre d\u2019interruptions de formation suite \u00e0 une d\u00e9cision n\u00e9gative ou d\u2019une \u00e9ventuelle prolongation de l\u2019autorisation de travail n\u00e9cessaire \u00e0 la poursuite d\u2019un tel apprentissage. \u00abIl n\u2019existe [tout simplement] pas de relev\u00e9 statistique\u00bb, dixit le Conseil f\u00e9d\u00e9ral dans sa r\u00e9ponse \u00e0 <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.parlament.ch\/fr\/ratsbetrieb\/suche-curia-vista\/geschaeft?AffairId=20223774\" target=\"_blank\">l\u2019interpellation Pasquier-Eichenberger<\/a><span class=\"footnote_referrer\"><a role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" onclick=\"footnote_moveToReference_89506_1('footnote_plugin_reference_89506_1_1');\" onkeypress=\"footnote_moveToReference_89506_1('footnote_plugin_reference_89506_1_1');\" ><sup id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_89506_1_1\" class=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text\">[1]<\/sup><\/a><span id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_89506_1_1\" class=\"footnote_tooltip\"><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.parlament.ch\/fr\/ratsbetrieb\/suche-curia-vista\/geschaeft?AffairId=20223774\" target=\"_blank\">322.3774 Formation des requ\u00e9rants d\u2019asile. Combien de personnes sont concern\u00e9es?<\/a><\/span><\/span><script type=\"text\/javascript\"> jQuery('#footnote_plugin_tooltip_89506_1_1').tooltip({ tip: '#footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_89506_1_1', tipClass: 'footnote_tooltip', effect: 'fade', predelay: 0, fadeInSpeed: 200, delay: 400, fadeOutSpeed: 200, position: 'top center', relative: true, offset: [-7, 0], });<\/script>.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignright size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/asile.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/futurcomplique_ambroise-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-69048\" width=\"496\" height=\"566\" srcset=\"https:\/\/asile.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/futurcomplique_ambroise-scaled.jpg 2244w, https:\/\/asile.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/futurcomplique_ambroise-263x300.jpg 263w, https:\/\/asile.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/futurcomplique_ambroise-132x150.jpg 132w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 496px) 100vw, 496px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Ambroise H\u00e9ritier \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/asile.ch\/2021\/03\/03\/ve-181-jeunes-deboute%c2%b7e%c2%b7s-en-formation-un-diplome-ou-laide-durgence\/\" data-type=\"post\" data-id=\"68366\"><abbr class='c2c-text-hover' title='Revue Vivre Ensemble'>VE<\/abbr> 181\/f\u00e9vrier 2021<\/a> consacr\u00e9 \u00e0 l&rsquo;apprentissage des jeunes d\u00e9bout\u00e9es<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<p>Traduction: les affirmations des autorit\u00e9s que le probl\u00e8me est g\u00e9r\u00e9 \u00abau cas par cas\u00bb, ou qu\u2019\u00aben r\u00e8gle g\u00e9n\u00e9rale\u00bb les personnes dont le renvoi n\u2019est pas possible \u00e0 courte \u00e9ch\u00e9ance obtiennent ladite d\u00e9rogation, ne sont bas\u00e9es sur aucune donn\u00e9e factuelle. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>De toute fa\u00e7on, ce sont les cantons qui passent \u00e0 la caisse, puisqu\u2019ils doivent quand m\u00eame financer l\u2019aide d\u2019urgence, et tous les frais annexes li\u00e9s au non-travail.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Leurs repr\u00e9sentants \u00e0 Berne feraient bien de s\u2019en souvenir en mars prochain avant de voter sur la motion Markwalder (<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.parlament.ch\/fr\/ratsbetrieb\/suche-curia-vista\/geschaeft?AffairId=20203322\" target=\"_blank\">20.3322<\/a>), qui demande pour la \u00e9ni\u00e8me fois de permettre aux d\u00e9bout\u00e9\u00b7es de terminer leur apprentissage. Car ce que l\u2019on sait, c\u2019est que fin 2021, 430 jeunes de 14\u201325 ans \u00e9taient consid\u00e9r\u00e9\u00b7es comme des \u00abb\u00e9n\u00e9ficiaires de l\u2019aide d\u2019urgence de longue dur\u00e9e\u00bb, selon le <abbr class='c2c-text-hover' title='Secr\u00e9tariat d&#039;\u00c9tat aux migrations'>SEM<\/abbr>: cela veut dire qu\u2019ils et elles avaient \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9bout\u00e9\u00b7es de leur demande d\u2019asile depuis au moins un an. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>En \u00e9largissant \u00e0 toutes les personnes en \u00e2ge de travailler (16 \u00e0 65 ans), on arrive \u00e0 2020 individus \u00e0 l\u2019aide d\u2019urgence depuis plus d\u2019un an et 430 depuis plus de 5 ans. Certain\u00b7es ont sans doute re\u00e7u leur d\u00e9cision n\u00e9gative apr\u00e8s des mois, voire ann\u00e9es de s\u00e9jour. Elles viennent majoritairement d\u2019\u00c9rythr\u00e9e, d\u2019\u00c9thiopie, d\u2019Irak, pays o\u00f9 les conflits arm\u00e9s et la dictature sont l\u00e9gion&#8230; Le renvoi n\u2019y est pas envisageable et le retour inimaginable pour elles.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ne serait-il pas plus pragmatique de les laisser travailler, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.parlament.ch\/fr\/ratsbetrieb\/suche-curia-vista\/geschaeft?AffairId=20204119\" target=\"_blank\">comme le propose le patron de l\u2019USAM et conseiller national du Centre, Fabio Regazzi<\/a>, (le Centre), afin de diminuer les frais de l\u2019aide sociale? Sa motion, bien qu\u2019accept\u00e9e au National, sera sans doute retoqu\u00e9e au Conseil des \u00c9tats le 14 d\u00e9cembre. Elle s\u2019est vue opposer les m\u00eames arguments que ceux invoqu\u00e9s pour l\u2019apprentissage par le Conseil f\u00e9d\u00e9ral&nbsp;<em>(<a href=\"https:\/\/asile.ch\/2023\/02\/14\/lacceleration-des-procedures-dasile-une-fausse-prophetie-jamais-realisee\/\" data-type=\"post\" data-id=\"89487\">p.7<\/a>)<\/em>. Or, miser sur l\u2019acc\u00e9l\u00e9ration des proc\u00e9dures revient \u00e0 se mentir. Ce n\u2019est pas un bon calcul, en tous cas pas pour les finances cantonales.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<section id=\"related-content-block-action-block_873f84ce2b141018744addaa9365ff21\"\n    class=\"c-block c-block--featured  c-block--card c-block-- \">\n    <div class=\"c-block-title \">\n        <div class=\"c-block-title--label\">Contenu li\u00e9<\/div>\n        \n    <\/div>\n    <div class=\"flex flex-wrap -mx-4\">\n                                                                \n                                    <div class=\"px-4 mb-8  w-full \">\n                        <article class=\"c-card post-89487 post type-post status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-actualites tag-formation tag-integration tag-loi-sur-lasile tag-notre-regard tag-procedure-acceleree tag-regularisation tag-restructuration tag-statistiques ve_numero-ve-190-decembre-2022 ve_type-decryptage ve_action-notre-regard\">\n  <a href=\"https:\/\/asile.ch\/de\/2023\/02\/13\/lacceleration-des-procedures-dasile-une-fausse-prophetie-jamais-realisee\/\" class=\"c-card-link\">\n    <div class=\"c-card-image\">\n      <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/asile.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/dessin2-640x420.jpg\"  alt=\"\">\n      <div class=\"c-card-type       is-notre-regard-tax\n             \">\n\n                          Notre regard\n                \n      <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n\n    <h2 class=\"c-card-title\">\n        L&rsquo;acc\u00e9l\u00e9ration des proc\u00e9dures d&rsquo;asile. 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